Trooper York Guest Posts:
Um, Troop, you're right, I didn't mess with The Knockout Game. But not because it's too hot a topic for TMR readers or I to handle, but because:
A) Being over 10 years old even to the mainstream press (The Knockout Game's much older in the black population - a fact no one's upset about going unreported) as "news" The Knockout Game's shock value is pretty low in my neck of the woods.
B) I'm more-than-aware of Drudge's desperate search for racial dog whistles.
And C) Dancing to Drudge's tune - or watching others do so - is boring.
A) Being over 10 years old even to the mainstream press (The Knockout Game's much older in the black population - a fact no one's upset about going unreported) as "news" The Knockout Game's shock value is pretty low in my neck of the woods.
B) I'm more-than-aware of Drudge's desperate search for racial dog whistles.
And C) Dancing to Drudge's tune - or watching others do so - is boring.
If you wish to pretend my actions are really because I'm a hypocrite who "can't handle the truth," so be it.
By now, I know, arguing with you is pointless,....
The Knockout Game (or whatever they called it back in the day) has been around since my dad was a little kid.
ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong, this is by no means sanctioning it (I don't think anyone is) -- but it isn't new.
If somebody puts a hand on you when you're about minding your own business (that part is important -- minding your own business, aka. not going out looking for a fight), then you have every right to defend yourself. Which kinda goes to your post above this: hey, get your head blown off in the process of trying to burn a guy's house down, hurt him or his family, uh, price you pay for being a dick, no pity.
PW
As for the root cause, again imhao only, for some of these kids acting like this (which is pretty much beyond the realm of civilized society):
ReplyDeleteWe have raised a generation or two of parents who can't parent -- negligence and abuse do crop up, absenteeism crops up even more, and then there's the phenomenon of parents who want to be their kids' friends; none of this is race specific, and none of it contributes to children who act civil. And because the parents are incapable, that leaves society on the hook.
BUT, but....
One of the biggest things that I personally have seen is, that we have taken away all personal control of their households away from these parents. A lot of them are on some sort of aid due to poverty; that means visits from the social worker (because of course poor people are too inept and lacking somehow to be good parents). Visits from the social are viewed with more fear and trepidation than a visit from the cops -- because the social worker can, in the blink of an eye cause a parent to lose a kid or all manner of other life wrecking things. The parents (or parent, because we've also punished poor people for trying to keep intact families) can be punished for trying to take control of their kids (and at a very young age the kids learn this; I've seen plenty of them tell the adults off "you can't spank/do anything to me; I'll tell the social worker", and it has effect). So, by the time these kids are in their teens, if not earlier, the parents have by and large tossed up their hands -- I can't say as though I blame them, they are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
And then you get out of control, crazy animal acting kids, and no, it isn't race specific, but society will be meeting with them and not in a good way.
This group is the largest group that I got to see in my dealings with juveniles -- it isn't that they are bad parents, but they are parents with their hands tied behind their backs (and their feet shackled, and possibly tied down to a chair).
So there's my theory: we've developed some parents who can't parent, because they don't know how and/or they have not been given the freedom within their own homes/families to do so.
Fix that, I think a lot of these problems would lessen by quite a bit (but the reaction has been in the exact opposite of anyone doing that).
PW
PW said: The Knockout Game (or whatever they called it back in the day) has been around since my dad was a little kid.
ReplyDeleteWell aren't you special. For many of us cloistered ones, it came as a shock. But go ahead, just keep calling us stupid.
btw, crack, can you please remove the annoying spam barrier. It's not like you get tons of comments to filter.
No, but I do get robots and other nonsense.
ReplyDeleteI'll turn it off - for you - but, if the crap starts up again, I'll have to put it back.
Well, I'm not calling you stupid, but I will call you cloistered, which infers that you're pretty ignorant.
ReplyDeleteThis also implies that I hold out the hope that you'll amend that.
If you don't, well then, you are indeed stupid.
And yes, it's been around for a long time -- and not just here in the U.S. Might I suggest reading the essays of Mark Twain?
PW
I must ask a question that no one wants to ask. Isn't Lem a black man himself? I understand he is Dominican, but where the hell does he think all those dark skinned Dominicans came from? They were slaves from Africa brought in chains to work the Plantations. I think the Caribbean blacks like to forget their true roots and consider themselves better than American blacks. Don't they realize that if push comes to shove, they would be the one who is shoved by the white man?
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