I wonder if Frank Scheaffer knows that the separation of church and state was established to keep the central government from establishing an official "Church of America"--you know, like the C of E, and not established to keep personal faith totally out of government.
You might try reading some of the founding documents, some of the Federalist Papers, things like that. You might even learn something. If that's still possible for you, as full of hatred and bitterness as you are.
There is religion, and there is fanaticism, and there is usually a wee bit of a problem with religious fanaticism that dwells upon making/allowing some sort of purifying Gotterdamerung transpire in the here and now.
Oh, that he's being fanatically anti-fanatic? Yeah, true enough to that -- so?
It doesn't feel good to run up against the same thing in reverse, or at least pointed at you, does it? Maybe that's the thing -- or at least that's what I get from it (it's kind of a "heh, ok, point taken, and fair enough" reaction I get). Other people's opinions may vary.
I would have thought that after 8 years of the way W was treated that people would get the notion to not go there because it's bad no matter which way you slice it; I guessed wrong. True or false?
Oh, and the other reaction I get (besides shaking my head) is: laughter at the performance unrolling before me. Sometimes it's bitter laughter, sometimes sad, and sometimes I'm just laughing-laughing. Damn!
Ok, I'll spell it out for you -- and not expect you two to get it even then (just like you both can't seem to get my gender correct, no matter how many times I mention it):
I'm saying, that after watching the left show just how unhinged and unrealistic (just how vicious and nasty too) they could get during the Bush years -- simply because they didn't "win", simply because they did not get their way in all things like little children and damn the consequences to real human beings past/present/future -- I had hoped that particular strain of human behavior would be avoided. I was wrong.
It has nothing to do with being a "pussy" (a word, by the way, I'm finding increasingly hilarious to see in print...must be a woman thing, although maybe it's a needing to find something funny to laugh about). It has nothing to do with lack of resistance. It does have a lot to do with fighting smart, and fighting for the right things (and that's probably the parts that make my laughter have teeth gritting rage and tears in them).
But again, I'm probably all wrong on this -- carry on, as you were.
Oh, and (because I've been told I like to engage in solipsism:
A people are made up of many factions, factions are made up of many families, and families have many people who don't always like one another and are good, bad, or indifferent. But they are still your family, so you can't turn away from them, even if you try you can't do it. Even if you really don't like them and try to avoid them, you can't forget them completely.
Good leaders remember this, and try to make the rest of us remember it too, even if it means risking unpopularity; bad leaders don't; really bad leaders like to make us forget this and follow them always, even though it hurts us all.
More religious bigotry, Crack?
ReplyDeleteLOL at your choice of sources there.
I wonder if Frank Scheaffer knows that the separation of church and state was established to keep the central government from establishing an official "Church of America"--you know, like the C of E, and not established to keep personal faith totally out of government.
You might try reading some of the founding documents, some of the Federalist Papers, things like that. You might even learn something. If that's still possible for you, as full of hatred and bitterness as you are.
All religions are cults to Crack.
ReplyDeleteHe is unhinged.
There is religion, and there is fanaticism, and there is usually a wee bit of a problem with religious fanaticism that dwells upon making/allowing some sort of purifying Gotterdamerung transpire in the here and now.
ReplyDeletePW
PW, would you consider something for me?
ReplyDeleteCrack's anti-everything that's not main stream zealousness lately is bordering on fanaticism.
True or false?
Oh, that he's being fanatically anti-fanatic?
ReplyDeleteYeah, true enough to that -- so?
It doesn't feel good to run up against the same thing in reverse, or at least pointed at you, does it? Maybe that's the thing -- or at least that's what I get from it (it's kind of a "heh, ok, point taken, and fair enough" reaction I get). Other people's opinions may vary.
I would have thought that after 8 years of the way W was treated that people would get the notion to not go there because it's bad no matter which way you slice it; I guessed wrong.
True or false?
PW
Oh, and the other reaction I get (besides shaking my head) is: laughter at the performance unrolling before me. Sometimes it's bitter laughter, sometimes sad, and sometimes I'm just laughing-laughing.
ReplyDeleteDamn!
PW
I guess I'm not completely sure what you're asking, PW. Could you clarify? Thanks.
ReplyDeleteIt derives from the Hedda Nussbaum school of political theory.
ReplyDeleteOk, I'll spell it out for you -- and not expect you two to get it even then (just like you both can't seem to get my gender correct, no matter how many times I mention it):
ReplyDeleteI'm saying, that after watching the left show just how unhinged and unrealistic (just how vicious and nasty too) they could get during the Bush years -- simply because they didn't "win", simply because they did not get their way in all things like little children and damn the consequences to real human beings past/present/future -- I had hoped that particular strain of human behavior would be avoided. I was wrong.
It has nothing to do with being a "pussy" (a word, by the way, I'm finding increasingly hilarious to see in print...must be a woman thing, although maybe it's a needing to find something funny to laugh about).
It has nothing to do with lack of resistance.
It does have a lot to do with fighting smart, and fighting for the right things (and that's probably the parts that make my laughter have teeth gritting rage and tears in them).
But again, I'm probably all wrong on this -- carry on, as you were.
PW
Oh, and (because I've been told I like to engage in solipsism:
ReplyDeleteA people are made up of many factions, factions are made up of many families, and families have many people who don't always like one another and are good, bad, or indifferent.
But they are still your family, so you can't turn away from them, even if you try you can't do it. Even if you really don't like them and try to avoid them, you can't forget them completely.
Good leaders remember this, and try to make the rest of us remember it too, even if it means risking unpopularity; bad leaders don't; really bad leaders like to make us forget this and follow them always, even though it hurts us all.
And I like rambling stories and solipsism.
PW