Saturday, June 21, 2008

O.K., The Man's - Officially - An Idiot Now

"I think we can all agree that we need presidential candidates that are serious enough not to play make-believe on the campaign trail. It's laughable, ridiculous, preposterous and revealing all at the same time."

-- Tucker Bounds, a spokesman for John McCain, on Barack's new presidential seal, as reported in New York's Daily News

"If you wanted to emphasize to voters that the Democrats' nominee is a bit stuck up, it would be hard to do better."

-- Mickey Kaus, commenting for Slate.com.

8 comments:

  1. 'The phrase "Nero Possumus" translate to "Truly We're Able" or "Yes We Can"
    '

    if he is an idiot then he's just following in the footsteps of the incumbent. I'm not sure how you can give that guy a couple of desk calendars worth of passes for idiocy and still appear outdoors.

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  2. Berko, that kind of logic is called relativism and it doesn't get a lot of respect around here:

    If you think Bush is an idiot then you shouldn't want another idiot near the office. Obama has already made as many verbal gaffes as Bush, proven he will lie to your face, thrown his own grandmother under the racial bus, and hangs out with creeps.

    Get serious. This is our country we're talking about.

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  3. Hey Berko,

    That's some channeling you did there, comparing Bush and Obama, look:

    Is Obama's new faux-presidential, alternative-reality seal his "Mission Accomplished"? If you wanted to emphasize to voters that the Democrats' nominee is a bit stuck up, it would be hard to do better. - Slate.com

    So there is a difference between them:

    Bush ain't stuck up.

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  4. Um, if you shoehorned your way into high office with your daddy's help and then proceeded to fail at everything you did - spectacularly, mind you - do you think that, even with the kind of hubris GWB has been known to display, you might think that being stuck up was not the way to go.

    At the end of Bush's term, bin Laden will still be at large, the economy will be spiralling into recession, the situation in the Middle East will be worse than ever.

    Get serious?! Who is it that's not getting serious. Republicans whine about minor Democrat peccadilloes and then ravage the planet with their venal shortsightedness. Amazing.

    Whatever threat Obama poses is as to nothing to what you have already undergone.

    I predict he won't be trying to pull down two or three trillion budgets and busy throwing good money after bad. Not even the US economy can sustain that (the evidence is all around).

    As it happens, I think McCain is pretty decent. If he gets the chance he might even turn around some of the damage to the party, the country, the globe, caused by the rotten neocons. He should have been given the nomination last go round as Bush is not in any way equipped for the job.

    Just to pick you up on who was responsible for New Orleans. Did you see the recent flooding footage in Iowa? Did you notice that it didn't take five days for Bush to make his way there and console the victims? I did.

    If Obama is not up to the job it will be because there has been too big a trail of disasters left for him to clean up and no amount of spin by you or any shoddy apologist will change the fact.

    Oh, and your link to the earlier post. Okay, so intelligence got it wrong in every respect whereas a rabble of placard waving lefties down under got it completely right. And you were rooting for who here?
    Had we 'foilwrap wearing New Age crazies' been in the position that your man was, you'd be several billion dollars better off and the world would be a safer place.

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  5. Wow, Berk, I didn't take you for being this simple-minded. You've gone from being the loyal opposition (in your introduction) to part of the tin-hat crowd (now) in no time flat. I'll take 'em one at at a time, and making it quick, because my time, today, is short:

    You say Bush "shoehorned" his way into his daddy's job, when every investigation into the 2000 election - including those by WashPo and the NYT - say he won, fair-and-square. That means you're suffering from BDS, my friend. To quote Justice Scalia, the Supremes vote was 7-2, so "let it go." Acceptance is the first sign of maturity.

    Catching bin Laden is no more important than catching Hitler was (which we didn't, BTW) it would be nice, but it's not important to winning the war. It seems to be taking on the same dynamics as the war on gangsta culture, where so much pressure is applied that idiots just don't want to it anymore. And, in case you haven't noticed, the Middle East is better - not worse - from Bush's efforts.

    I don't know what you call "minor Democrat peccadilloes," or the charge that Reps "ravage the planet with their venal shortsightedness" - or even (thinking of 9/11) "Whatever threat Obama poses is as to nothing to what you have already undergone," so I'll pass until you clarify.

    "I predict he won't be trying to pull down two or three trillion budgets and busy throwing good money after bad. Not even the US economy can sustain that (the evidence is all around)."

    I don't know what "evidence" you're looking at: for instance, oil prices aren't under our control, and high food prices have been placed at the feet of biofuels-loving environmentalists, so you're tripping. I look out my window and I see Prius's Mercedes Benz's, etc., so things can't be that bad - except in someone's imagination - and NewAge is all about cynical belief, so,...

    "As it happens, I think McCain is pretty decent. If he gets the chance he might even turn around some of the damage to the party, the country, the globe, caused by the rotten neocons. He should have been given the nomination last go round as Bush is not in any way equipped for the job."

    I like Bush more than McCain and your comments make it sound like you just don't like democracy. McCain lost last time. Big Deal. You sound more pissed than he does - he likes Bush too.

    "Just to pick you up on who was responsible for New Orleans. Did you see the recent flooding footage in Iowa? Did you notice that it didn't take five days for Bush to make his way there and console the victims? I did."

    I like how you "pick up" on New Orleans without admitting wrong (if you read this blog, much, you know that changing the subject - and not admitting when you're wrong - are sure signs of NewAge-influenced thinking.) Presidents are busy men. If showing up at disasters are all you judge performance by, your thinking is as shallow as a photo op.

    "If Obama is not up to the job it will be because there has been too big a trail of disasters left for him to clean up and no amount of spin by you or any shoddy apologist will change the fact."

    Wait - I just posted video of Obama (and Jimmy Carter) admitting he's not qualified. What part of that didn't you get? Jeez. Talk about "blaming the black guy."

    "Oh, and your link to the earlier post. Okay, so intelligence got it wrong in every respect whereas a rabble of placard waving lefties down under got it completely right. And you were rooting for who here?"

    Two things: the intelligence of the entire world got it wrong - but you just blame Bush (BDS) and those Lefties always scream "no" so, like a broke clock, they're bound to right once or twice. That doesn't mean they think about, or know, anything.

    "Had we 'foilwrap wearing New Age crazies' been in the position that your man was, you'd be several billion dollars better off and the world would be a safer place."

    "We"? Ah, so you admit it: you're a fruitcake. Excuse me for taking you for a decent chap. My mistake.

    Good day, Sir.

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  6. 1. Yes, shoehorned. The problem wasn't with the hanging chads (though I had a good laugh at business-suited snots running through the halls protesting at the threat of a recount), it was with a number of voters being disenfranchised from the vote because they had the same name as a convicted felon. You should also dispense with those new machines with all good haste, they're a disaster.

    2. No, tracking down the architect of the actual attack on American soil is, or should be, the number one priority. Putting troops in Iraq creates insurgents, just as an invasion of America would create an armed resistance. Duh.
    You have a post saying that Democrats never apologise. Please link me to an apology from the Republicans for being wrong about WMD or Bush declaring that the war was over - five years ago.

    3. No I hadn't noticed the Middle East was better. There's scores of suicide bombings and, despite the billions poured into Iraq, basic infrastructure is still third world.

    4. Why would I admit I was wrong about New Orleans. I was right. No, busy leaders do not wait to appear at the site of a disaster of that magnitude. Otherwise what the fuck was he doing in Iowa?

    5. I don't admit to being a foilwrapped crazy. I was being sarcastic. Jesus Christ!

    6. And, yes, the intelligence communities of the world were sucked in by some childish whiteboard drawings by Colin Powell while failing to take heed of the far more credible threat of passenger planes being flown into buildings. But who was it that rolled Hans Blix (who stated that he'd found nothing and wanted to keep looking) and went ahead - against the protests of the international community, who normally approve interference if it is warranted. The blame very squarely falls on the Bush administration for this one. He wouldn't listen to the UN member nations, he 'misunderestimated' the scope of what he was getting into. Badly.

    Your debating is transparent. You'd like to corral me into a 'New Age' or 'loony left' bracket so you can dismiss what I have to say because grappling honestly with my assertions would undermine all that this blog stands for.

    But, sticking up for the Left in general, we/they don't scream No to everything. I have no problem with the war on the Taliban in Afghanistan. Pity you're too gutless as a nation to pick fights every time there's an aggressor or bully. The 9/11 bombers were from Saudi Arabia, and China harvests the organs of its political prisoners but that's okay. They are too big a target or you are too beholden to them (now even moreso thanks to Bush's rampant loan policies)to ever confront them.

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  7. "You'd like to corral me into a 'New Age' or 'loony left' bracket so you can dismiss what I have to say because grappling honestly with my assertions would undermine all that this blog stands for."

    No, I corral you there because that's where you belong. I'm an American, and a student of my country's history, while you don't know dick about how to interpret what you're reading. You've said nothing original, or really worth comment, just the usual tripe that loses one election after another.

    You're boring me, Berko.

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  8. The more Tucker Bounds opens his mouth, the more I think he is a closeted homosexual.

    He is way too catty and petty to be straight!

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