This reminds me of the first e-mail I received after the election was over,...the real losers, without a doubt, are the Obots who decided to give Barack Obama's presidency a bad name as soon as it began. There's just no accounting for the minds of some people. They are mean, vicious, and as small as the racists of the pre-Civil Rights Era.
Funny when that attitude gets twisted to be used in defense of a black president. MLK would be so proud. Here's the whole episode. Enjoy, if you can stop being screwy dickheads long enough to enjoy anything. Really. The Obots are just too much.
If you voted for McCain/then you know what I'm sayin'/make some joy out of pain/you can do it when you're paying:
the real losers, without a doubt, are the Obots who decided to give Barack Obama's presidency a bad name as soon as it began
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Great point! Gloating about Obama's victory in the polls is WRONG and shows NO CLASS whatsoever.
It should be obvious to ANYONE that the only responsible, mature and PATRIOTIC course of action is to instead whip up hysterical accusations and conspiracy theories about Obama the "terrorist", Obama the "Communist", or even Obama the Hitlerian dictator of a "new age" political cult, as you have done for months now on this blog.
The "Obots" should be ashamed of themselves for failing to live up your good example!
Too bad, those sorry brain-washed Democrats just don't recognize INTELLIGENCE when they see it!!!
Just two thoughts:
ReplyDelete1) You seem to have missed the posts where A) Evan Thomas of Newsweek talks about how creepy the Obama cult is, and the one where the campaign calls itself "the cult of Obama", and the one where CNN calls it a cult, and - oh hell, if you don't get it by now then,...never mind.
2) You guys are going to doom this presidency. Watch. You just can't help yourselves. You might as well kiss it goodbye already.
Forget it bill k. I dont think he even realizes how deep his obsession is. He damn sure aint going to admit it.
ReplyDeleteUm, Gentlemen, let me hip you to something - pay attention now:
ReplyDeleteObama wining the election doesn't mean that anything I, or anyone else, has written is a lie. It just means he got 6% more people to pull the lever for him than McCain did - who, of course, didn't have the media sucking his dick and refusing to it's job.
I don't know what you're expecting (Barack would win and everyone would forget why they voted for the other guy?) but whether or not I learn to accept him depends a lot on you guys, and, so far, you're blowing it by justifying every "cult" mention anyone's ever made.
Or don't you understand that your minds aren't working well if you think this is how normal adults behave? Cultists, who can understand 'em?
You got it: I can.
cmc, you seem to forget that it was YOU who was crying about some low class people gloating and saying ugly stuff... no mirrors in your house?
ReplyDeletewhether or not I learn to accept him depends a lot on you guys
ReplyDeleteso youre saying its our fault if you keep crying about obama? uh huh
Lee Allen,
ReplyDeleteIf there's one thing that's becoming clear, it's that you're kinda "slow", so let me hip to how things go outside of the Obama Cult:
You won the election.
When you win an election, you're supposed to show good sportsmanship, because (can you imagine this?) the people who lost weren't on your team and aren't sold on your ideas yet.
Not showing good sportsmanship doesn't help the situation - or your candidates chances - which, if I'm not mistaken, goes against the whole purpose of getting the guy elected in the first place.
Do you get it yet? The responsibility is on YOU and no one else. Being a dick isn't going to make me love Obama. As a matter of fact, it's just going to confirm my worst thoughts about him and his "followers" just as it is already starting to.
Now if you want me to keep talking to you, start showing a little intelligence, and independence of thought. It gets boring, and tedious, for me otherwise.
"so youre saying its our fault if you keep crying about obama?"
ReplyDeleteYou get one more chance, Lee:
Another missive like that and you join the ranks of my ex's friends.
...whether or not I learn to accept him depends a lot on you guys... The responsibility is on YOU and no one else....
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It is interesting how no matter what happens, the Crack Emcee is NEVER responsible for his own thoughts and actions - it is always someone else's fault - there is always some sort of conspiracy or paradigm or cult that is interfering with his life and preventing him from behaving like an adult and exercising his free will...
I wish the rest of us could use that excuse too, it would sure make life a lot easier... being an adult is hard!!!!
Bill J,
ReplyDeleteYou didn't quote the money line: you won! That's why YOU have to show good sportsmanship, or didn't you learn that in elementary school?
Plus, I'm the guy with rabble-rousing blog. What do you think? I'm supposed to change the background to pink and start screaming "Yes We Can!" because a guy I didn't vote for won? Or I'm supposed to think he's great because 6% more of you voted for him - with the media's help - and are now declaring that gives you a bullshit mandate? You're dreaming, dude!
This country is based on a "loyal" opposition, and you must have missed the post where I said Obama's my president, too, and I feel compelled to give him a hand, but I still expect him (and his followers) to bring me around. I'm not going to make it easy for anybody - the guy's an admitted cultist - his own people said it! You can ignore it, but you know I won't, so what you're expecting/demanding/trying to manipulate me into becoming ain't gonna happen:
I'm my own man.
I'm my own man.
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That's good. It's good to take responsibility for yourself and form your own opinions, because that's what adults do.
Adults don't blame other people for their misfortune. They take responsibility for their own mistakes, learn, and move on.
Children, on the other hand, see themselves as powerless, so they aren't able to take responsibility for their lives. Instead they project and blame everyone around them for when things go wrong, spinning fantastic fantasies of conspiracies, plots and secret societies. Anything, ANYTHING, to avoid taking responsibility!
"Everyone is against me!" - the eternal cry of the loser who is not willing to do the self-examination nneccesary to grow up.
I am very glad that you are not like that, and that you do not revel in your own victimization. That would be a very sad sight indeed.
Bill,
ReplyDeleteAre you deaf, dumb, and blind? I was married to a cultist, who's now being investigated for the murder of two people, so don't fucking tell me these are fantasies.
I used to be like you: with no interest, or belief, that such things existed outside of Charlie Manson or some shit; but now I know better, and I also know it's that very attitude - the attitude that says it's all fantasy - that allows these assholes to flourish.
Do you seriously think CNN, Newsweek Magazine, etc., are all tripping, or are you purposely ignoring what we're all saying because you don't want to consider that you, too, have bought into a bunch of ideas with no basis in reality? Or have ignored what you want to ignore:
I didn't make the Obama campaign speak about the Obama Cult in front of an Australian reporter. I didn't make Obama show certain symbolism to the Maharishi cult in Iowa. I didn't make Obama have Oprah (The Secret, Eckhart Tolle, Marianne Williamson, Scientology) as his top supporter. I didn't make my ex be into all these things: I just started investigating what she was into. And now she's killing people. Is this all my imagination? Not a fucking chance.
Keep it up, Bill, I owe you nothing. I've been through worst than your nonsense - my wife killed my mother-in-law when I was still married to her. You can't hurt me. But I can ignore you and choose not to engage with you.
All I ask of you is READ THE BLOG, don't just look at the latest posts and decide that's all to what I'm saying. I've been doing this since 2005 - there's more than enough information here (with links to lots of other information) - so there's a way for you to figure it out for yourself. Events move too fast for me to turn back now, and stay current, but if you want to sort it out, then there's more than enough here to bring you up to speed.
Now quit fucking with me: I've been through more than you can imagine.
And, if you're going to insist on working my last nerve, the least you can do is make a donation.
Damn.
Are you deaf, dumb, and blind? I was married to a cultist, who's now being investigated for the murder of two people
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If that's the case, then you're lucky you got out of such a bad relationship, so that you can put the pieces back together and move forward with your life.
How many days/weeks/months has it been since you split?
I discovered her involvement in cultism three years ago. The divorce was over about a year and a half ago. I moved to a new city, and have been trying to start over fresh ever since, but (surprise, surprise) I developed an interest in cultism after that, wondering, finally, what I had just experienced, and discovering there was this huge "occult" movement within society - almost another political party or something - that most people only had a less-than-vague understanding about, as I used to. Most of the big names that we're all familiar with are into it, in one way or another:
ReplyDeleteMadonna = Kabbalah.
Tom Cruise and John Travolta = Scientology.
Arianna Huffington = John Roger.
Hillary Clinton = Jean Houston.
Bill Clinton = Ken Wilber.
Oprah Winfrey = almost everybody in the cult world, etc.
Once you become familiar with the players, and how the movements intersect, and the rules of the game (like Homeopaths have a Code of Conduct that doesn't allow them to snitch on each other when they kill people) then it opens up a whole other way of looking at the world - nothing is the same.
Most people only catch glimpses of it:
http://themachoresponse.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-campaign-this-is-cult.html
http://themachoresponse.blogspot.com/search/label/iowa
But few take it seriously - and that's the mistake - because disbelief allows cults room to maneuver. What's to stop them with so many people convinced that cults don't openly exist? Those two links, above, are from people noticing what's going on but without bothering, or interested enough in the phenomena, to be comprehensive. They're like looking at photographs without knowing what happened before or after the flash. "Occult" means "hidden" and that's the way they like it:
And the more right out in the open the better.
It's practically fool-proof.
Errrr... sorry but you are really mixing up a lot of terms here without understanding what they mean.
ReplyDeleteThe word "cult" comes from the Greek "cultus" which just meant a system of worship - for example, Christians were 1% of the Roman Empire so from the Roman point of view it was the Christian "cult."
Nowadays the term has a more derogatory connotation so people use it to refer to any new or fringe belief system, e.g., the Pentacostal cult, etc.
But that use is all relative, for example, once something becomes widespread then it becomes a religion and it no longer a "cult" so that use is strictly a measure of popularity.
Then there are also writers who use the term in the vernacular to refer to fads, for example: "Radio station KOLOR started broadcasting – among the hosts was a Londoner named Sylvia Opoku – and a national cult of hip hop began."
And finally there is the occult which although it SOUNDS the same has a completely different meaning.
You are correct that it means "hidden" for example doctors talk about "occult bleeding," i.e., looking for signs of bleeding which are hidden.
But in general it is used to describe systems of belief having to do with magic etc which could either be unpopular (and therefor "cultic" in ADDITION to being occult) or else widespread and accepted (like that book "the Secret") and therefore mainstream (in addition to being occult).
It seems like you are mixing up "cult" and "occult" and using both to refer to any belief systems you disagree with, which is also what fundamentalist Christians do. '
However you are then carrying these terms over by misunderstanding "cult"'s vernacular use to describe the Democratic party, which is ridiculous because
a) the Dem party in the US is a secular party whose platform has nothing to do with doctrines about the afterlife or any of the other concerns of religions small or otherwise and
b) any politician who wins a landslide victory of more than 2 electoral votes for every one of the other guy's is clearly not representing a fringe or minority position - whatever it is, its mainstream, widespread and popularly accepted.
I would suggest you check out Wikipedia and learn what these words really mean, then we can have an intelligent conversation.
Bill,
ReplyDeleteI'm grateful for your approach on this e-mail - we're talking now:
I know everything you wrote - intimately - and I'm not silly enough to be confusing "cult" and "occult", or mistaken about the Democratic Party, or anything else. I've been studying this subject, in one way or another, for three years and, rather than being confused, how I use these terms is a result of my comfort with them, not my unfamiliarity.
As I said earlier, you've got to get up to speed:
http://www.bu.edu/arion/paglia_cults00.htm
Read that, and more of the blog, and then hit me back. And thanks for writing.