Friday, March 14, 2014

Whites Saying There's No Racism Isn't Very Convincing


I just got a comment from a reader saying I should drop race:


 If that's true, then why was anti-racism activist, Tim Wise, being called there last September? Wise even started off by saying, if Silicon Valley's really a meritocracy, he wouldn't be there. He also said, if you want to know if there's racism, ask the people racism hurts the most. And that wouldn't be the whites.

So who isn't aware of reality?

You'd think, after 400 years of white supremacy, white people would know better then to try and convince us otherwise,...
 

10 comments:

  1. It would be a real shame to me, Crack, to see you sucked into and obsessed with the labyrinth of racial politics.

    Silicon valley is simple. It's about getting there first, so you get the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Skin color is immaterial: good engineers are all weird anyway. Not someone you want to invite to a blue-blood dinner party.

    The sad fact is that Asians, who are closely genetically related to American Indians, and Hispanics, who are a mixture of European and American Indian, have little presence in Silicon Valley tech. Blacks too have little experience: I can recall only having worked with 2 (one who I hired).

    Asians dominate.

    That pot of gold is much more important than skin color, Crack. That's capitalism in its purity. Best man or woman for the job.

    And please, when I clearly state racism is a natural reaction, don't get confused by it and claim I don't think there is any of it. I, and my siblings, have experienced enough of it to make your statement offensive.

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  2. Let me amend:

    "The sad fact is that Asians, who are closely genetically related to American Indians, and Hispanics, who are a mixture of European and American Indian,

    The sad fact is that American Indians, who are closely genetically related to Asians, and Hispanics, who are . . ."

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  3. OK, so now I'm going to listen to the stupid idiot, Tim Wise.

    Just because a black man in the US, or a woman in england or Pakistan was elected to run the state, that racism and sexism are dead. First comment, I'm sexist. I prefer fornicating with women. Men and women are different, in fundamental ways. Any disagreement?

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  4. OK, so just because a woman has been elected as head of state, don't go to those places. But the jerk uses this in two ways. On the one hand insinuating because we haven't elected a female head of state in the US, something is up, and on the other hand, using it to say "My Racial/Sexist pandering is OK."

    Yeah, this guy is not a truth-seeker.

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  5. Here is some more of it. Those other industries "aren't" meritocratic, but Silicon Valley is. So, we will see what this spin meister has to say. More junk. It's simply disgusting.

    The only facts so far is trying to destroy that people are willing to elect black and women heads of state.

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  6. So here we go. 6% of the people are black and Latino. Well, I suppose I work in a higher echelon than this guy is suggesting. Because it's not 6% black and latino, it's more like 1%. Meanwhile, in the last ten years, it's been about 90% southeast asian. Definitely it's RACISM. And women? about 10%. Of the good workers? Less still. And I say that with the person I connect with the most, and have the most admiration for (someone I hired), being a woman.

    So I suppose this deceiver, who ups his tempo to give you less time to reflect and process, wants you to believe it's outcomes. No, it's not culture, it's not parents, it's not anything else, but RACISM. I should take this person seriously?

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  7. Dante, I lived in San Francisco for 23 years. Please don't pretend to tell me about Silicon Valley. I was part of .MP3.com's IPO - I got shares. I invested well in Red Hat. I was holding Google stock when my divorce went down, man.

    And I haven't been "sucked into" anything. I was born black in America before you met me. That's the insult you guys keep throwing at me - I tried "colorblind", remember? It didn't work. It made me complicit.

    It's easy to claim a colorblind position if you don't live with blacks. Shit, man, I am black. And there's nothing colorblind about what happens to blacks - that's why they call us "blacks".

    Who cares if I'm their online friend when they pull the trigger, offline, buying into this violent, crazy, whatever stereotype is being used this week to make Republicans feel better?

    You're not stupid, you have to understand that: Republican policies, as they are now, can - literally - get me killed. Welcome to America.

    Look, I'm about to shift the focus of the blog a bit anyway - not away from race but back more to the center, open it up to other interests, etc. Just don't ask me not to be black because A) it's an insult to deny me the most important political identity I have, and B) I can't do it anyway - that's partially what this whole scream has been about:

    Everybody trying to get me to do what's clearly not in my, or my party's, interest - vote for Romney, support Ted Cruz, cheer Trayvon's death and heckle his parents. Stand with Michael Dunn and denounce Rap music and how blacks think and behave under the circumstances.

    I simply can't - and I won't.

    It's asking too much.

    I am alone in this world. More than anyone I know. That's not my imagination, or a delusion, or depression, but fact - I am not "playing the victim".

    You can't take "my people" from me, too.

    I'm glad you're giving me the benefit of the doubt. Honestly. It means a lot. I'll try to do better.

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  8. Here we go again. This person is such a liar, it's not even worth listening to.

    "you would have to ask yourself some really hard questions about who possess merit in this country, and how doesn't, because if you have, an entire area, both of the entire country and a geographic region, and this being the silicon valley where only about 6% of all the employees in the various firms of the companies are black and latino, and you believe at the same time that this is a pure meritocracy as a part of the economy, then you would actually have to come to some very racist conclusions.

    Almost by definition you would have to conclude that only 6% of the best people are represented by African Americans and Latino who collectively in the country represent approximately of the population."

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    OK, I'm done listening to this shyster.

    Simply, the man should do the simple analysis of people who moved between states to foreign born Californians to deal with his networking claims. Then he should compare # of foreign born workers to US born workers to bolster his claim. Then he should compare # of Asians to Whites, to bolster his claims.

    It's an insult, Crack, to throw this charlatan up as some kind of defense of your racial sensitivity views, Crack.

    It's not worth spending one more minute listening to this idiot. Getting you off your racial tirade, worth more time.

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  9. "cheer Trayvon's death and heckle his parents."

    Are you serious? Who wants to see a young man die. While I like to think if my child did that I would side on truth, could I accept the truth? I love my children so much, there aren't many ways out. Mostly, only despair, but I like to believe that I could accept the truth and not blame an innocent man.

    Skin color is immaterial, though they tried. I had a friend kill himself at 17. A young white man that women loved, who was physically attractive, but the mother divorced the father, and wanted nothing to do with the son. Dead, killed by duct-taping a hose to his exhaust and killing himself. And I'm not talking about an acquaintance. In the ninth grade, and told me he was going to kill himself. We had little in common, but we were humans, and I stopped that then. He's now dead.

    Zimmerman is living in hell. His wife left him. He is next to insanity. I don't know the man, but I think he is in anguish. A living hell.

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  10. "cheer Trayvon's death and heckle his parents."

    Are you serious?


    Yes. Maybe you and I travel in different circles online, but all that would mean is I'm deeper into this conservative thing than you are - they were cheering the kid's death and heckling his parents. What am I supposed to do with that? Hang in there with them? No, I won't. They're on their own.

    And, as much as I like you, I don't know what to say to you, D. I can ask everyone in this country if racism is still here and they'll say yes. But ask those same people if they're racist and they all say no. How can that be? How can racism still be alive and well but no one's a racist? Makes it kind of hard to prove when racism hurts blacks, say trying to hold a job, doesn't it? Especially when people like you are insisting we drop the whole thing. How's that supposed to work? Oh yeah:

    You go on about your life while I keep getting kicked in the ass, and every time I turn around, there's no one there. I tell you about it, but you say shut up because it's racial - which means it's not happening to you - so the sequence of events can then continue to happen, into perpetuity, with no recourse in sight. My ass just hurts for the rest of time.

    How's that good for me again?

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