Saturday, June 27, 2009

Damn It Feels Good To See People Up On It

"It turns out Al Gore and the United Nations (with an assist from the media), did a little too vociferous a job smearing anyone who disagreed with them as 'deniers.' The backlash has brought the scientific debate roaring back to life in Australia, Europe, Japan and even, if less reported, the U.S.

The number of skeptics, far from shrinking, is swelling. Oklahoma Sen. Jim Inhofe now counts more than 700 scientists who disagree with the U.N.—13 times the number who authored the U.N.'s 2007 climate summary for policymakers."


-- Amanda Carey, on what, for me, was a not-quite-obvious (but still expected) development, because I deal in Reason.

And, when spreading the blame around, let's not forget the "scientists". Many of them, if not most, are culturally Liberal NewAgers, though (like most NewAgers) they'd be loathe to admit, or investigate, what's happened to them - because it happened to them - and they're (also like most NewAgers) too arrogant and/or cowardly to admit the horrible truth of that: To accept that, maybe without even knowing it, they drank the Kool-Aid a long time ago. That they've been made fools of - and used as pawns and mouthpieces by - a bunch of flakey "spiritual" megalomaniacs. Considering how highly they cherish their view of themselves, as educated, that's gotta hurt.

I mean, if one self-educated atheist black conservative artist is smarter than they are at figuring this nonsense out - and they ain't even as smart as a bunch of pseudoscience-loving loonies - something's very, very wrong, right?

5 comments:

  1. Very interesting. Do these increasing number of climate change skeptics know what is causing global warming if it isn't human activity? Or do they deny that it is taking place?

    If it is not happening then what about the ice shelves:

    "In the last several decades, glaciologists have observed consistent decreases in ice shelf extent through melt, calving, and complete disintegration of some shelves.

    The Ellesmere ice shelf reduced by 90 percent in the twentieth century, leaving the separate Alfred Ernest, Ayles, Milne, Ward Hunt, and Markham Ice Shelves. A 1986 survey of Canadian ice shelves found that 48 km². (3.3 cubic kilometers) of ice calved from the Milne and Ayles ice shelves between 1959 and 1974.[2] The Ayles Ice Shelf calved entirely on August 13, 2005. The Ward Hunt Ice Shelf, the largest remaining section of thick (>10 m) landfast sea ice along the northern coastline of Ellesmere Island, lost 600 square km of ice in a massive calving in 1961-1962.[3] It further decreased by 27% in thickness (13 m) between 1967 and 1999.[4] In summer 2002, the Ward Ice Shelf experienced another major breakup.

    Two sections of Antarctica's Larsen Ice Shelf broke apart into hundreds of unusually small fragments (100's of meters wide or less) in 1995 and 2002.


    Gee Pa, that sounds like global warming, don't it?

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  2. "Gee Pa, that sounds like global warming, don't it?"

    A better phrase for it would be "the weather". And you spend too much fucking time with your mother,...

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  3. Naw, she keeps pestering me about going outside without a hat on now that the hole in the ozone layer is getting bigger.

    But, okay, let me rephrase that then: Why is "the weather" causing ice shelves to melt by 90% in a period that is coincidentally marked by the greatest increase in human population and industrial activity? Why did the ice shelves not melt in previous 'horse and cart' eras if human activity has no bearing on this phenomenon?

    I ask in the spirit of enquiry as I'm anxious to know how climate change skeptics avoid this in their calculations. I'm sure, with your level of interest in the subject, you have considered this.

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  4. Because "the weather" changes.

    Surely you've noticed this where you are. How old are you?

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  5. Well, Bernie Heatwave, you have dramatically demonstrated the absolutely defective thinking that the climate, as experienced by you during your infinitesimally insignificant existence (relative to the age of the planet) is the norm, and the way it "should" be.

    Try to imagine the relief people in Chicago might be enjoying today because you are wrong, and they aren't now under 5,000 feet of ice.

    The fact is, Bernie, this ice retreated long, long, long before your mentioned 'horse and cart era', and is responsible for forming the Great Lakes. Without a single SUV, or cart, in sight at the time.

    You may also want to entertain the physical, objective record that indicate the carbon levels at the times of the greatest ice were 16 times greater than today's level.

    In response to your ice shelf anxiety, here is something reported by 21st Century Science and Technology:

    "Despite mountains of propaganda to the contrary, a mountain of ice in the center of Greenland has been growing over the recent decade. The floating ice on the East Antarctic ice shelf is growing too, adding a much greater mass of sea ice than was lost in the much-publicized collapse of the West Antarctic shelf.

    These are among the surprising results of a study of ice-mass changes from 1992-2002, which just appeared in the Journal of Glaciology. The study, which went counter to many expert estimates, is based on the most precise satellite altimetry data ever gathered, using the European Remote-sensing Satellites ERS-1 and 2, and other observations."

    Another excerpt:

    "At the turn of the 20th Century, it was thought that two to four such glaciation cycles had occurred, interspersed by periods of warmth. But further refinement showed that the Northern Hemisphere had passed through cycles of glaciation, interspersed by brief warmings, known as interglacials, almost every 100,000 years over the past 1.8 to 2 million years. The last 100,000-year glacial cycle achieved its maximum extent just 18,000 years ago, when North America was covered with a sheet of ice from one to two miles thick, reaching as far south as New York City, and Chicago.

    The science of climatology in the 20th Century showed that these changes in glaciation followed a cycle which closely correlated with the three major long-term variations in the Earth's orbit."

    There is also a growing number of scientists who think the planet may actually be on the verge of ANOTHER mini ice age, so you might consider changing your name to Barney Coldspell.

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